tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post2912923506819814246..comments2023-08-17T08:05:43.229-07:00Comments on The Journey: Be Vs. DoAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13028057236879920077noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post-83267510282119801062009-02-13T08:17:00.000-08:002009-02-13T08:17:00.000-08:00Ah, I see. So in other words the statement "Murde...Ah, I see. So in other words the statement "Murder is wrong" would be the statement you were looking for, rather than "murder for pleasure". Gotcha :) Now I have to read your next blog that I see is up :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post-79165326710219425872009-02-12T11:14:00.000-08:002009-02-12T11:14:00.000-08:00So, what you're saying is that in this case, it wo...So, what you're saying is that in this case, it would always (therefore an absolute) be wrong. I agree with you. What I was getting at with the absolute question applies to the more broad statement we make. "Lying is wrong" is a general absolute that doesn't acutually hold at all times for most of us. On the other hand, "It is always wrong to kill for the purpose of my own pleasure" is an 'absolute' in a sense and certainly something we agree on as evil.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13028057236879920077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post-49771888663111145032009-02-12T10:49:00.000-08:002009-02-12T10:49:00.000-08:00What about killing or assaulting someone purely fo...What about killing or assaulting someone purely for the pleasure you derive from doing so? Not because you are protecting yourself or a loved one, but because you enjoy watching others suffer. Same thing with stealing -- not because you need the food or items to survive, but because you get a rush from doing it. What about lying to make yourself look better? In other words...doing things that are generally accepted as "wrong" when the ONLY benefit is all about you and not about doing it for God or others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post-12521102917295024572009-02-12T08:26:00.000-08:002009-02-12T08:26:00.000-08:00Maybe Old Testament harlots get a special dispensa...Maybe Old Testament harlots get a special dispensation for this kind of thing! It is interesting to note that her choice was not between lying and not lying, but between not lying and saving lives. Hmmm. I would totally lie to protect my child, or your child. I'm afraid my ethics are getting a little squishy. ~Ann.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post-23753821463190871362009-02-11T14:12:00.000-08:002009-02-11T14:12:00.000-08:00Don't you think, though, that in many ways a diffe...Don't you think, though, that in many ways a different situation makes all the difference? I still think we need to have a basis for our ethics, but I'm not sure it's in moral absolutes. Take for instance lying, which is generally believed to be a moral absolute. And yet in the Bible, Rahab is commended as a woman of faith because she hid Israel's spie. How did she hide the spies? By lying. In other words, her lying is a big part of what the Bible commends (not condemns) her for. So in this case, the situation made the moral absolute irrelevant. <BR/><BR/>Like I said, more on this topic coming today...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13028057236879920077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post-72545632174135002242009-02-11T14:01:00.000-08:002009-02-11T14:01:00.000-08:00Yes. How can it be ethical if it changes dependin...Yes. How can it be ethical if it changes depending on the situation? That lowers "ethics" to "convenience" doesn't it? ~AnnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post-34676118126834932152009-02-11T11:20:00.000-08:002009-02-11T11:20:00.000-08:00Perhaps. Are you assuming that situational ethics ...Perhaps. Are you assuming that situational ethics is bad?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13028057236879920077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20142398.post-16275094654159772112009-02-11T10:58:00.000-08:002009-02-11T10:58:00.000-08:00If we don't believe in moral absolutes, aren't we ...If we don't believe in moral absolutes, aren't we forced into believeing in situational ethics? ~Ann.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com